BROWN DEER SENIORS NEWSLETTER - If you have something you'd like to add to the newsletter, please email it to J Bruss

Membership Status 3/17/20 - Posted by JB
We have 188 members in the club with 17 potential new members remaining on our wait list.  Thirteen members have left the club since the end of last season, and 13 new members have been added.
  New members are listed below along with their handicaps, and members who have left the club since the 2019 season ended are also listed.  As we agreed in the end of season meeting, we will hold the membership at 188.

New Members
Greg Thatcher    5.1
Ken Oatsvall      18
Jeff Gardner      20
Troy Burbach   17.0
Steve Tubbin    15.3
Bob Salzar        16.5
Bill Zeidler         11.3
Jim Keihl          15.2
Joe Welcenbach  20
Roger Abel       20.5
Kevin Lee  5.8
Bill Skinner  27.4
Jim Fergal (Former member) 15.6

Members Leaving
Len Lewandowski
Mike Davis
Al Walschinski
Mike Kelly
Bob Tanzi
Warren Weir
Lou Kerns
Russ Bassel
Don Yoder
Bob Van Eerden
Bill Crowley
Dave Ghodsi
Phil Hinman (passed away)

They Say It's Just A Number, But... - Posted by George Carian 10/5/19


While dodging raindrops at the soon-to-be-aborted Hawthorne Hills event this week, playing partner Dominic Carini asked me my age (71, thank you).  This got me to thinking, where do I stand among the better players in the club?  A quick Membership Directory search revealed the startling news  As the 37th ranked player in the club, only four guys with lower indexes (Jeff Ausen, Lloyd Tindal, Jay Mays, and Bob Romans) are older than I am!  Where did those 32 kids come from all of a sudden?  Since joining the club in 2006, I'd always been one of those youngsters.


In the immortal words of Adam Sandler, "What the hell happened to me??"  --George Carian

Membership Status 2/16/19 - Posted by JB 

We have our most members ever, 191, and that is it.  Anyone contacting me going forward will be put on a wait list for 2020.  We've added 30 new members in the last month and we've lost 11 since the season ended.  New members are listed below with their handicap indices and members who left are also listed with their reason for leaving if known.

New Members
Bhatti, Abid 18.0
Borris, Jim 12.0
Condella, Tom 10.3
Czaplewski, Dane 9.5
Davis, Mike 14.0
Day, Doug 14.0
Dwyer, Kevin 7.8
Frohwirth, Glenn 22.5
Gerszewski, Bob 14.9
Hennen, Michael 16.6
Kelly, Michael 20.1
Kerns, Lou 30.0
Knutson, Gil 15.0
Kobelinski, Dave 23.0
Kroeger, Alan 18.0
Kursel, Tom 13.1
Lawrenz, Larry 16.8
Lewis, Richard 17.2
Meyer, Bob 15.2
Mlagan, Richard 20.5
Reeves, Ron 16.0
Reiter, Rick 17.1
Rogers, Michael 12.9
Schreindl, Mark 11.2
Sheey, Jim 14.5
Tanzi, Bob 12.0
Tylke, Randy 8.6
Wanezek, Phil 21.2
Yuhas, Daniel 14.2

Cuthbert, Mark (former member)   13.5

Members Leaving
Ron Richter, moved away
Aaron Feldman, not playing well enough
Jerry Braun, Can't play enough
Bill Uhrick, moving away
Pat Knapp, Too much going on
Dennis Kaehny, Joined another club
Paul Bartelak, Lives too far away
Ben Holz, Schedule issues,
Bill Spitznagle, Health issues
Larry Moris
Juan Varela, Health issues

Membership Status December 25, 2018
We have 166 members.  We've added 26 and lost 27 since the 2017 season ended.  They are listed below, the new ones with handicap indices and the old with their reasons for leaving if known.  We have 25 potential members on a waiting list.

New Members
Pete Tarantino 14.8
Harry Marcos 16.4
Lloyd Tindal  5.8
Dennis Olson 17 est.
Gregg Bott 12.6
Ken Champa 25 est.
Al Walschinski 15.1
Terry Biel 15.3
Mike Dolan 9.5
Tom Deffke  36.3
Greg Anderegg 21
Tom Simpson 29 est
Chris Dich  27 est.
Dave Love  10.1
Tom Schalk 12.6 est.
Mike Studer 14.6 est.
Matt Andrews 3.2
Warren Weir 26.6
Dave Beaumier 20.8
Tom Sherman 12.2
Jim Kloth 20.4
Jerry Sherrod 25.9
Bob Carr (former member returning) 21.0
Pat Knapp (former member returning) 21.1
Ken Bush (former member returning) 17.1
Pat Carey 16.3

Members Leaving
Dick Fabinski - Hasn't been able to play with us much
Dan Baker - Still working, schedule issues
Steve Vogt - health and schedule issues
Jerry Zimmerman - Out of state
Bob Fitzgerald 
Dennis Skusek - playing a different day of week
Buzz Whetam - Health issues
Mike Loos - 
Roger Schimm - doesn't play anymore
W.E. Rogers - Health issues
Glenn Frohwirth - Health issues
Bruce Giese - health issues
John Gogin - Not participating, no contact
Hank Kleppek - Health, not participating
Mike McClone - Not participating, no contact
RIchard Siegel - Not participating, no contact
Glen (Buzz) wilson - Not participating, no contact
Joe Rifelj, Knee issues, may return next year
Pat Strong
Gary Luck
Roger Hoge - passed away
Ron Richter - moving away
Aaron Feldman - not playing well enough
Jerry Braun - not playing enough
Bill Uhrick - Moving away

Pat Knapp - Too much stuff going on
Dennis Kaehny - Joined another club

​Membership Status April 20, 2017
We have 168 members.  We've added 35 and lost 11 since the 2016 season ended.  They are listed below, the new ones with handicap indices and the old with their reasons for leaving, if known.

New Members:
Wayne Oberlander  24.8
Ben Holz  16.3
Kurt Beronja  6.5
Mark Grady  17 est.
John Buckley  13.2
Jerry Zimmerman  14.7
Fred Berry  10 est.
David Ashpole  15.7
Roger Hilmer  17 est
Charles Pauls  7.8
Dewey Dotzler  12 est.
Jeff Kjorlien  7.2
Al Huebner  22.1
Jerry Braun  12 est.
Gary Luck  8.6
John Winter 11.8
Sal Collura  15.2
Bill Prost  17 est.
Steve Malisow  26.1
Mike Hetzel  9.1
Peter Vander Grinten  16.9
Mike Szymaszek  19 est.
Mohi Amini  16.2
Bill Molitor  29 est.
Dan Kyle 22.5
Mike Loos 12.1
Dave Ghodsi 6.8
Mike Reister 15.1
Joe Fifelj 30 est.
Jeff Ausen 6.8
Glenn Frohwirth  22.5
Chris Johnson  10.7
Bill Blackmore  13.2
Vince Butler  15.1
Dave Ullenberg  5.2
Members Leaving
Bob Fellenz,   Moving to Az
Andy Tadyszak,  Too much travel coming up
Rich Neustifter,  Too much travel 
Bill Gorman,  work conflicts
Pat Knapp, time commitments
Tom O'Brien, shoulder surgery
Mike Mulligan, health issues
Ken Collins, no reason given
Tom Hoover, No reason given
Jim Fergal, lives in Az
Mike Matheny, Moving to Cincinnati, then Albuquerque


The PGA Tour's "Wisconsin Era"
 - submitted 7/12/14 by George Carian

 Amateur Jordan Niebrugge made the cut yesterday at the John Deere Classic along with Steve Stricker, Jerry Kelly, and Mark Wilson.  It marked another proud moment for the Badger state on the PGA Tour, but one that will occur less and less frequently in the future.


Niebrugge was born near St. Louis but grew up in Mequon and attended Homestead High School.  He stormed through state golf events, joining Wilson as the only players to win the "Wisconsin Slam" (State High School, State Match Play, State Amateur, and State Open).  Like a lot of young college players currently making a splash in the golf world, he appears to have Tour pro talent.  However, he's only 20 years old and just entering his Junior year at the golf factory also known as Oklahoma State University.  Even if Niebrugge succeeds on the big stage, it won't be quite the same as the last two decades when five players with strong Wisconsin ties (six if you count Mario Tiziani in 2005) were mainstays on our TV screens.


Skip Kendall is the oldest of the five, and will turn 50 in two months.  He continues pounding away on the circuit, where he's been for the most part since losing his card in 2006.  His indelible image materializes through the gloom at Royal Troon, posting a second round 66 to lead the 2004 British Open (he finished 11th).  Can that possibly be ten years ago?  He's finished second four times in Tour events, but has never won.  Nevertheless, he is #177 on the career money list with $8.1 million, plus another $1.0 million over the years on the lower tour.  With very modest length and a razor sharp short game, he could make some noise on the Champions Tour where distance off the tee isn't quite as crucial.

J. P. Hayes was the first of the five to become a Tour regular in 1992 (Kendall followed in 1993, Stricker in 1994, Kelly in 1996, and Wilson in 2003).  Hayes has two Tour wins, but lost his card five times and was forced to regain it via Q-School (1994, 1996, 1997, 2004, 2009).  He was knocked off the Tour one last time in 2012 with a knee injury.  He turns 50 in August 2015, and is prepping for a run on the Champions Tour.  He is #172 on the career money list with $8.4 million.


Jerry Kelly and Steve Stricker are both 47 (Kelly is exactly three months older), and each has enjoyed a wonderful golf career.   Kelly has eight Tour wins and is #28 on the career money list with $25.7 million.  He was forced to use a one-time Top 50 career money exemption last year after barely falling short of the Top 125 money list in 2012, and responded with solid performances in 2013 and again this year to keep his card secure.  Stricker has twelve Tour victories and is #7 on the career money list with $40.3 million.  The only players ahead of him are the household names of Love, Els, Furyk, Singh, Mickelson, and Woods.  He is also #1 on the Nice Guy list, the latest testimonial coming from Jordan Spieth who confessed he roots for Stricker while they are playing together in competition!


Mark Wilson is the baby of the group at 39.  The stock refrain in golf circles was, "Everyone knows Mark isn't good enough to be on the PGA Tour...everyone but Mark."  He has answered the critics with five Tour wins and is #98 on the career money list with $14.0 million.  However, his last win was in 2012 (with its two year exemption) and he is struggling mightily this year.  Since Kelly's Top 50 option is not available to Wilson, he will somehow have to win about $600,000 in the final few events of the season to keep his card in 2015.  Gulp.


The career money totals mean less and less over time.  Arnold Palmer won $1.86 million on the golf course, and is #378 and falling fast.  Johnny Miller, $2.75 million and #334.  Lee Trevino, $3.48 million and #295.  Jack Nicklaus won $5.73 million and ranks #230.  Billy Horschel has won more than Nicklaus in 3½ years!  So the $96 million won by our five Wisconsin players won't be all that meaningful down the road when the list is compiled.  However, their 27 Tour victories will always be precious.


Hopefully, a new crop of Wisconsin players like Jordan Niebrugge will create fresh memories for loyal golf fans in our state.  It will be a tough act to follow.

Did They Yell Fore? - Submitted 5-27-14 by Jerry Persak


Don Yoder, Ron Pipp, Jay Mays and Jerry Persak were playing The Bog today and 3 of us had just teed off from the 6th tee. The fourth, Don Yoder addressed his ball and started his swing. Just then a deer started to cross the fairway about 190 yards out, followed by another smaller deer running about 25 yards behind the first deer. None of us dared warn Don because he had just started his backswing.


After Don hit his shot, Jerry immediately mentioned that Don's ball might hit the first deer. Ron Pipp exclaimed that he might hit the second deer. Ron was correct; the ball struck the second deer.  The startled deer hopped up a bit, stopped, and turned to gaze at the ball, which was headed left hell bent for the side of a sand trap.


The good news is that the startled deer ran away no worse for the wear.


Don was stuck with a crappy downhill-side hill lie in the rough just outside of a sand trap. He unceremoniously proceeded to skitter his next shot about a hundred yards down the fairway on his way to a double bogey!


Golf sure has its moments! This one will not soon be forgotten by this foursome. 

Our Excellent Municipal Golf Courses - submitted 5/13/14 by George Carian


 While "muni" might be a disparaging word in some golf circles, that is definitely not the case in our area.  Every county in the southeast corner of Wisconsin has interesting, well-maintained, economical municipal courses.  Amazingly, we play exactly half of our 26-week BDS schedule on nine different "muni" courses.  The average cost for those 13 rounds is just over $22, and the average cost for 9 of those 13 rounds (excluding the 4 at Brown Deer) is $19!!


Our first "muni" foray of the year is next week (Wednesday, May 21st) at Naga-Waukee.  Since its opening in 1966, "Nag" has been near the top of the list of all public courses (not just muni's) in Wisconsin.  Larry Packard did some of his best design work here.  The layout features 11 dogleg holes (8 of the 10 par-4's, and 3 of the 4 par-5's), all well guarded by his trademark shallow sand traps.  The back 9 starts with a bang.  The first two holes (both doglegs, naturally) are a claustrophobic mix of hills and trees that tend to make you lose your sense of direction.  Not that it matters, since the spectacular views of Lake Pewaukee from the 14th and 16th tees are worth the price of admission.  All for $22.  You have to be a bit peculiar to pass on such a deal.    


[One caveat.  I've always considered Naga-Waukee and Abbey Springs (with severe back 9 hills) the two hardest courses in the area to carry your clubs.  Playing Nag every week made me finally get a push cart.  So it's no disgrace to take a power cart here.  Knowing that, Nag charges $14 for a cart, a rate they would NOT negotiate.]

Two weeks later (Tuesday, June 3rd) the club makes the first of two trips to Washington County.  No hyperbole required for this course, GolfWeek calls it the best "muni" in Wisconsin and the 33rd best in the country.  Not too many years ago, Golf Digest rated it the 2nd best "muni" in the country!  Unlike all the other municipal courses on our schedule, Washington County has very few trees even remotely in play.  Designed by Arthur Hills and opened in 1997, this links-style course is guarded by tall fescue bordering the rough and an almost constant wind.  Bent grass fairways, superlative design, great conditioning, all for $24!  It's an easy walk, but power cart for those inclined is just $8 more.  BDS members have already voiced their approval.  Other than our home track of Brown Deer, Washington County is the only course we play more than once per season.






Benedum, Jim   21.0

Bruening, Gene   9.6

Carr, Bob   17.8
Casper, Skip   28.8

Cristan, Bob   5.6

Eversfield, John  28.8

Fitzgerald, Bob   21.0

Flayter, Russ   6.3

Gardner, Gene   16.1

Gorman, Bill   20.9

Haas, Ed   27.1
Hemauer, Ken  14.0

Morrow, Ron   11.6

Olson, Terry   16.4
Pincsak, John   18.0

Pipp, Ron   14.4

Reidy, Kevin   11.1

Roets, Mike   21.9

Schmanski, Frank   11.2
Serena, Dave (former member)

Wilkiewicz, Bob   12.7



Lancaster, Tim (No reason given)

Jacobsen, Roger (Moved away)

Gunderson, Ron (Moved away)

Gardner, Lee (No time)

Felber, Mike (No reason given)

Grimes, Giles (Health issues)

Grimmer, Ray (No contact)

Sander, Luther (No contact)

Grabowski, Ted (Health issues)

Giunta, Jim (Scheduling issues)


You can tell this winter has got me going stir crazy when I publish the drivel that you see below.  However, if you are just as ready for the winter to end as I am, perhaps reading this worthless information will help you forget the snow for 5 minutes.

  • We have 115 members right now with an average account balance of $93.29

  • Average age is 70.4.  Eight members are under 60 years old, 45 are in the 60s, 45 are in their 70s, and 13 are in the 80s.

  • Fifteen members have a birthday in February, our highest birthday month.  Next is June with 12.  Eleven days a year we have 2 members with a birthday on the same day.  No days with 3 birthdays.

  • If I asked you to guess how many different cities our members lived in, I bet every single one of you would guess too low.  Take a guess right now and see if you are correct.  Drum roll.….. Our members live in 36 different cities.  Milwaukee is high with 19.  Waukesha is next with 9, then Brookfield with 8.  There are 14 cities with just one member each.

  • The club has been in existence since 2001.  We have 19 charter members remaining.

  • Last year 58 members won more money than they paid in, and 45 lost money overall. 

  •  Over the last 5 years we have averaged 69 participants per event.  The highest turnout was 2009 when we averaged 74 players.  Last year was the second highest with 69.

  • Our highest turnout over the last 5 years was 89, at both Washington County last year and at Oakwood in 2009.  We played Washington County twice last year and had 88 and 89 players for the 2 events.

  • The average handicap index of our membership is 18.5.  Thirteen members are below 10, 58 are between 10 and 20, 43 are in the 20s, and 7 are above 30. -  J Bruss

Handicapping - Posted 8-28-13


Many members have noticed that when we split tees for our events, we sometimes have a situation where a player teeing off from the back tee has a higher handicap than one teeing off from the forward tees.  Some of you, when seeing this, think “Aha! Our beloved president made a mistake”.  Well, when you think that, you are wrong.  It is not a mistake.  It is correct.  However, the explanation is a bit complicated and requires a rudimentary understanding of mathematics and the handicap system.  If you can handle that and want to learn more, read on.

First, even though many of us use the terms handicap and handicap index interchangeably, they are different.  The index is a number calculated from your 10 best scores of your last 20.  It is calculated using your scores for those rounds and the course slope and rating.  When you look at the handicap listing on our website what you see is handicap index, not handicap.  It is listed out to 1 decimal, as 10.1 or 22.7 for example.

Your handicap for any given day is calculated by multiplying your handicap index by the course slope and dividing by 113.  Your handicap changes from course to course, being higher on tougher courses than easier ones.  The handicap is rounded off to the nearest whole number.

When it is time to lay out flights and handicaps for events, the first thing done is to sort the field into 4 equally sized groups by handicap index

Then tees are assigned by flight, and then handicaps are calculated by multiplying your index by the slope of the tees you are assigned and dividing by 113.  The slope of the back tees is always higher than the slope of the forward tees.  Thus, someone with an index of 22.4 for example may get a handicap of 24 from the back tees, while someone with an index of 23.0 may get a handicap of 23 from the forward tees.

Here’s an example from our Oakwood event on 8/27:


Hcp Index



Course slope for tee assigned

Handicap for Tee Assigned












































Note that 2 D players had lower handicaps than 4 C players, but they had higher indices than the C players.  

So that's it.  Hopefully now you understand why the handicaps and tees aren't always what you think they should be.  If you still don't understand, take 2 aspirin and read this article again. - J Bruss


Push Cart Follies 3 (posted 7/25/13)

I ended the last cart follies post with the question:  “Has George learned his lesson yet?”  Well, the answer is a resounding no.  George was at it again at Naga-Waukee this past Monday.  This time he decided to liberate his cart on the 10th hole.  If you know the course, then you know that the 10th has a narrow fairway that runs away steeply into woods on both sides.  It’s probably not the best hole on which to test your carts directional stability. 

But test it George did, evidently confident in the steerage adjustments he had made to the cart some weeks ago.  He pointed it at the green and let go.  It took only a few seconds to see that this would not end well.  The cart veered slightly left and it became clear that its trajectory would take it down the steep slope to the woods.  George muttered an “oh, oh” and began a futile trot after the cart, but by then it was 60 or 70 yards ahead, picking up speed, and Carl Lewis couldn’t have caught it. 

Near the bottom of the hill the cart caught the steepest part of the slope and barreled down into the forest at breathtaking speed, completely disappearing from view.  Fortunately no humans or small animals were maimed by the runaway.  When we got down to the cart, we found it upended with a few items scattered about, but no lasting damage, except perhaps to George’s psyche. 

The incident reminded me of a story I coincidentally had just recently heard about another man who let his cart go in about the same spot.  In that incident the cart struck a small stump or rock and pitched forward, and the clubs went flying straight out, down into the woods like an handful of spears.  Mercifully, Georges cart pitched sideways, so the clubs stayed in the bag. 

Perhaps George should go back to carrying his clubs on his back.  The world would be a safer place. -- J Bruss

Push Cart Follies 2
(posted 7/10/13)


You may remember reading about the push cart escapades of George Carian a few weeks ago in this newsletter.  If you need to refresh your memory, that posting is still here, lower on this page.  After that misadventure, one would think George had learned his lesson about releasing his cart down the hill on the 14th at Naga-Waukee.  One would think….  But, on Monday George was up to his old tricks.  He loosed his cart once again on the same hole as we walked off the tee, probably thinking that the wet grass from the morning rain would prevent the cart from running past his ball as it had before. 

On that he was correct, but he ran into another unintended consequence, or rather his cart did.  We watched as his cart rolled down the right side of the fairway/rough.  Our playing partners, Gordy and Kiyo, were riding in a cart down the right rough, and were unaware that George’s cart was behind them and gaining as they approached Kiyo’s ball.   Then Gordy, driving, stopped the cart and Kiyo got out just as Georges cart arrived and slammed into him.  To say Kiyo was surprised is an understatement.  From about 100 yards away, we heard him yell something like “Hai” as his arms and legs seemed to be entangled in the cart.  He did keep his feet, but he was rubbing his elbow and looking bewildered for a few seconds before he realized what had happened.  Gordy later told me Kiyo thought some kind of animal attacked him.

George hustled down to apologize, and Kiyo, in the inscrutable Japanese way, appeared to accept.  Has George learned his lesson yet?  Who knows? -- J Bruss


Random Thoughts
(posted 6/26/13)

Roger Schimm, freed from his duties as score marker Tuesday, took the saved time to send me a couple of thoughts that were rattling around in his head.  They’re posted directly below.  If there is something here you think the club might adopt, or if you’d just like to discuss, contact Roger.   If there is enough interest, we could think about doing something.

My son-in-law and I spent the weekend up at the chain of lakes near Waupaca along with our families. Had a very fun time.   He is the head golf professional at the Country Club of Lansing, MI.  He gave me two golf magazines which he brought along from Michigan for me to read. I was surprised to read an article about what the PGA and the USGA are trying to promote. The title of the article was "A Little Less to Get More". It was about how they are trying to get more people the start thinking to play nine holes instead of eighteen holes.

They see the hand writing on the wall with the young couples having less time available with their weekend leaser time. They work all week and can only play golf on weekends. Playing eighteen holes which could take 5, 6 or 7 hours of their day is just not in the cards with a lot of the young families. Playing nine holes which might take only 2 hours is much better for their limited time they have away from their families on the weekends. 

With seniors with time to play during the week this does not present a problem. I know that seniors would prefer to play eighteen rather than nine holes. Whoever decided that golf should be eighteen holes anyway? My son-in-law said there is a resort he knows about that has four eighteen hole courses and one that has thirteen holes. Thirteen holes. How about that.  I know our seniors would not like to play only nine holes, but how about playing on occasion two nine hole events in the eighteen hole round? I could think of several events we could use, but whether the rest of the club would go along with them is another story.  As you know seniors are petty much set in their ways. It takes a lot to get them to change or try something different.   -- A senior with too much time on his hands.
The club plays about 25 dates each season. I was thinking over the weekend, when I was in Waupaca and reading the two golf magizines that it would be fun and maybe add a little spice to our golf tour to create three or four special names for three or four of the courses.  Example:  Brown Deer Open, Brown Deer Masters, Brown Deer British Open, etc. I don't mean all would be played at Brown Deer. I mean maybe one at Brown Deer and the others at courses on our schedule.  Make these three or four dates that most if not all of our members woulf look forward to participate in. We might have special prizes for these dates. Just an idea. Think about or ask the membership if they think it is a good idea.  If they don't I wont feel bad. -- Roger   (your friendly score keeper with too many ideas on his mind)


I like to think I’m an optimistic guy, but when the siren sounded at Watertown Country Club on Tuesday, I marked my ball with a tee, and took the ball with me back to the clubhouse.  I was hopeful we’d get back out to continue the round, but not so hopeful as to leave my Pro V1 out there in the middle of the second fairway. 

Jerry Persak was in my foursome, and Mark Cuthbert was up ahead on the 3rd tee.  They win the Optimism Award for the day, because they left not only their golf balls out there in the rain, but they left their clubs too! 

I guess they counted on the rain ending and them getting back out, and they didn’t want to haul the clubs all the way back to the clubhouse.  But, as the delay dragged on, and we watched the rain out the window, coming harder and harder, they must have felt increasingly dejected about their decision. 

Eventually, they had to trudge back out to retrieve their clubs – in the rain.  The first hole is 500 yards to the south of the clubhouse and the second is 400 more to the west of that.  Using the Pythagorean Theorem, which I’m sure everyone is familiar with, one can calculate that Mark’s round trip was about 1400 yards, or a bit over three quarters of a mile – in the rain.  It was perhaps a small price to pay for a bit of misplaced optimism. -- Jack B

Push Cart Follies (posted 6-18-13)

Those of us who have used push carts are familiar with the delight of releasing the cart downhill, freeing us to stroll down the fairway, unencumbered by our tools, as we watch them meander down the hill ahead of us .  George Carian is using such a cart this season and he is like a kid in a candy store with it.  He lets it go at every opportunity, and when it developed a strong pull to the right, he called up his inner engineer and straightened it out, using not one, but two screwdrivers, and a wrench, as he proudly informed me during a recent round at Naga-Waukee.  Now he can release the cart behind his playing partners with some assurance that it will go where he points it and not run them over.

But later during that same round, George had a push cart problem of a different kind.  On the 525 yard par 5 14th hole he released his cart from the tee area as he and I walked down the hill toward our balls in the left center of the fairway.  We watched as the cart rolled leisurely down the hill, slowed a bit in a flat area, then crested a rise and continued on down the fairway.  It trundled on down to George’s ball, perhaps 300 yards from the green and continued on its merry way.  It reached the 150 yard marker, and still it rolled on.  Finally it reached an upslope and stopped near the 2 green side bunkers about 250 yards downstream of Georges ball, still carrying all 14 of his weapons.  In violation of the rules of golf, I offered to let him use one of my sticks, but George chose instead to borrow the riding cart the other members of our foursome were using.  He drove down to his wayward cart, dragged it back to his ball, and we continued on our journey, having learned a small lesson on the proper use of push carts. -- Jack B

Interesting Factoids on Washington County Event 6-4-13

Dominic Carini started his round with 9 straight pars, a birdie, then 4 more pars, and then finished bogey, bogey, bogey, bogey.  

Jim Schuemann started his round with double, par, double, bogey, par, double, before finishing the opening 9 holes with 3 straight birdies.  

The 7th hole, (par 5 around the lake over the creek to a small green) was a house of horrors for most of us.  Our 88 players averaged 7.0, coming in with fourteen 9s, fifteen 8s, twenty four 7s, twenty one 6s, just eleven pars, zero birdies, and one 3!  That’s right, a 3.  Matt Radish holed his 3rd shot from across the creek.


Our COMPETITIVE Senior Golf Club (Submitted 5-22-13)


When Roger Schimm established the BDS Golf Club in 2001, he wanted a competitive club above all else.  What does that mean?

Our club events are conducted according to USGA rules.  We play the ball down, we putt out, and we assess penalties for infractions.  While the club is composed of golfers with widely varying ability, we are paired together and we conduct ourselves in identical fashion.  It's definitely not a club for those who want to play without much purpose.


But it means much more than that.  BDS is a launch pad for those who want to continue tournament play in their retirement years.  No fewer than 54 of our members (47% of the club) maintain WSGA handicaps for that purpose, at a total of 14 different courses.  It's almost a club within the BDS club for these players, as they partner up for team events and car pool to tournaments conducted by the WSGA and other state golf associations.


As would be expected, the largest number of our WSGA members play out of Brown Deer.  However, two other "home" courses are also well represented.  (It should be mentioned that some players are "computer members" at these courses, and not members in their regular men's clubs.)


15, Brown Deer

13, Oakwood

7, Naga-Waukee

4, Currie

3, Whitnall

2, Dretzka

2, Greenfield

2, Wanaki

(6 courses with 1 each)


Gary Player wrote a book titled "The Golfer's Guide to the Meaning of Life" (2001) in which he said:

"No matter what level of golf you play, there is always a competition available to you at the club, local, and state levels.  To avoid playing in them is to push curiosity into the corner and to never learn the things about yourself that competition reveals to us.  Embracing the revelations that are brought to us by curiosity serves to enrich our lives."


The ambitious BDS traveling schedule of 21 different courses would be considered sufficiently curious in most quarters, but it's inadequate for almost half of our members.  I'm sure Mr. Player is proud of us.

--George Carian



Former BDS member Dave Serena recruited some current members to play the Irish course at Whistling Straits on a recent spring day when the greens fee was still a manageable $70.  When a player had to drop out at the last minute, the group was left with the problem of how to do a team competition with 7 players. 

Not daunted by the task, George Carian charged to the rescue, emailing the group the following:

If we end up with 7 players, the solution is obvious.  I'm surprised you haven't already mentioned it.

Each player throws in $6 (for a total of $42), and everyone partners with everyone else.  That means there are 21 different 2-man Best Ball teams.  Obviously, this will be a scorecard comparison so it doesn't matter who is in which foursome/threesome.  Prizes are awarded as follows:


1st Place, $6 each

2nd Place, $5 each

3rd Place, $4 each

4th Place, $3 each

5th Place, $2 each

6th Place, $1 each


It's unlikely but theoretically possible for one player to drag all six of his partners into the money, in which case he would win half the pot.


I'm attempting to locate a Cray supercomputer so the results can be tabulated by Midnight.


George, not owning a cell phone, is seemingly unaware that today’s mobile devices possess more computing power than any Cray supercomputer ever did.  Anyway, when the golf was done, the group of 7 convened at a nearby Culvers to distribute prize money.  Skins and green ball money was paid out quickly, while George worked out the team events with an old fashioned spreadsheet of the type you see pictured below.  It reminded me of my days as a young engineer at Standard Oil in Indiana, back in 1967. 


Approximately 35 minutes after he started George presented his findings and the team prize money was distributed accordingly.  No one knows if George was correct in his calculations, but he certainly was confident.

Cray Supercomputer?

Toughest Course? 

Ever wonder which of the courses we play yields the highest scores?  Well the DCS (Director for Club Statistics) has put together the following summary to answer that question.  The Bog wins the award for the toughest course we play, at least with respect to net scores over the last 2 seasons.  Brown Deer comes in as 4th most difficult.  Morningstar appears to be the easiest, but as most of us will remember, the tees last year were well forward of where they should have been, skewing the Morningstar data.  


If you have any requests for any other type of club statistical information, pass it along to Jack Bruss and he will forward it to the DCS.


Number Of Events

Ave Net Score 2011-12

The Bog



Whispering Springs



Lawsonia Woodlands



Brown Deer



Old Hickory



Hartford CC









The Oaks






Washington County



Lawsonia Links






Fire Ridge



Hawks View



Rolling Meadows






Hawthorne Hills










BDS Members Go on Spring Trip


Four members of the BDS took a car trip to Biloxi, Mississippi to play golf recently.  George Carian, Mark Cuthbert, Paul Bartelak, and Jack Bruss squeezed 32 hours of driving and 11 rounds of golf into an 8 day period.  The weather was awesome, almost always sunny, with about 3 days in the 70s, 1 in the upper 50s and the rest in the 60s, except for the first day at Rend Lake where it was in low 40s.  The 4 hardy souls left at 4 am Friday, 3/22, drove to southern Illinois, played 18 holes at Rend Lake, then jumped back in the car and drove to Memphis to stay at a Super 8.  They do not recommend that Super 8.  They got up early Saturday, drove to Hattiesburg, played 18 holes in gorgeous weather at Timberton, a very nice course, then got back in car and drove to Biloxi, checking into the Treasure Bay Casino hotel around 8. 


In Biloxi They joined up with a larger group of guys from the Greenfield Men’s Club, which included 2 more BDS members, Tom Thielman and Ralph Nennig.   From Sunday thru Thursday they played at 5 different courses, one rather ordinary, but the rest excellent.   The 4 guys took advantage of replay rates at all but one course, playing 36 holes twice and 27 twice.  On Good Friday they played their last round, then got in the car at 1:45 PM and drove straight through back home, arriving at 6 AM Saturday morning. 


All 4 travelers enjoyed the trip immensely, and with so much time together on the course and in the van they got to experience each other’s personality quirks close up.  When you get a chance, ask any of them about Chili’s, KFC, “are you talking to me?” the Armenian hat dance, or the bust on the 36th hole at Grand Bear.




At a recent breakfast get together at the Forum in Hales Corners, Randy Jacobsen surprised a group of fellow BDS members by donning a Santa hat and treating us and everyone else in the restaurant to some inspired accordion music. He regaled us with a Christmas song, then some Van Halen and Lady Gaga music, bringing rousing applause from everyone in the place. Who knew?  If Randy could play golf this well, he'd be on the pro tour. 

BDS club champ, Steve Christensen Wins Miwaukee Tour Championship - Posted 10/2/19 by J Bruss with input from Steve Christensen

Most of you don’t know this but there exists a Golfweek Amateur Tour, the Milwaukee Tour division.  Our BDS club champion, Steve Christensen, is an A flight member of this tour.  On Saturday September 28th Steve played in the Milwaukee Tour Championship at Washington County. Through the season he had accumulated enough points to be in the 'Final Four-some' for the 2019 Milwaukee Cup (this is similar to the PGA Tour's Tour Championship and the FedEx Cup, but not as widely known). The winner of the Milwaukee Tour Championship is also the winner of the Milwaukee Cup title. Steve played from the blue tees and shot 75, winning the A Flight Milwaukee Tour Championship by 2 shots and also taking home the 2019 A Flight Milwaukee Cup. The 75 was low score for the tournament, besting the Championship Flight winner by 6 shots. In fact, 2 other A Flight players in the 'Final Four-some' also beat the Championship Flight winner with scores of 77 and 78 (Championship Flight also played from the blues).


Steve was also selected to play in the inaugural Midwest Am Cup which will be at TPC Deere Run in Silvis, IL, Saturday and Sunday October 5 & 6 (where they play the John Deere Classic the weekend before the Open Championship). It is the Milwaukee Tour vs Chicago Tour vs St Louis Tour (Minneapolis Tour was also supposed to play but couldn't get enough players and wimped out).


Let’s all wish Steve well in the upcoming Midwest Cup.

BDS MEMBER CLEANS UP AT WSGA TOURAMENTS IN SEPTEMBER - Posted 9/23/18 by J Bruss with input from Joe Jurkowski

Over a 2 week period recently, Dave Ullenberg, our club champion, completed a hat trick plus one by winning 4 different Wisconsin State Golf Association events.  On September 6 up at the Bog, Dave shot 72 in a Senior Tour qualifying event, taking first place in the Senior Gross division.  Ten days later, on the 16th with his partner, Jim Doing at Lawsonia in a combo best ball, alternate shot, scramble event he took first place in the Senior Division.  Three days later, on the 19th Dave and partner Harry Markos, also a BDS member, won the Net partners finale up at Wild Rock, Dave shooting a gross 73.  And finally on the very next day at Wild Rock, Dave took first place in the Gross Division of the Senior Tour finale, scoring a tidy one under par 71.


Next time you see him, congratulate Dave for a great stretch of superb golf.  You might also ask him if the PGA Senior tour is in his future.

The "Glass Half Empty" Version of Tuesday's Broadlands Tournament - Posted 5/4/17

After Tuesdays event at the Broadlands in less than ideal weather conditions George Carian, who didn't play, emailed new club member Jeff Ausen and asked Jeff why he was one of the half dozen guys who started the round, but didn't finish.  Jeff's email response, reprinted here with his permission, was priceless:



The departure was not “early” if anything it was too late….  But I had a nice pairing to be playing with Jeff (Kjorlien) again.


It did not begin all that bad as it did not seem all that cold in the parking lot.  After I paid my money and decided to ride with Jeff the rain hit.  I also saw the miserable carts - sans windshield.  I trudged back to the car to get towels, to act as seat cushions, as I hate to get a wet ass when in a cart.  Upon getting to the first tee it seemed the wind picked up dramatically to the point the rain was no longer hitting the ground but simply coursing horizontal along fairways, except for the first hole where the rain was actually perpendicular to our faces viewing the most uninspiring view of the first hole.  I noticed too that our hosts had made every effort to make sure the course was a bit shorter for the senior group by having the white tee marker 5 yards ahead of the blue tees.


After donning my lined sweater over my heavy turtle neck and then my “puffy” Zero jacket my core was OK and humming at 98.6.  The rain necessitated taking off the Zero and going to the old reliable Sunderland wind breaker over the other stuff.  Core temperature dropped to 96.  After three swings and watching my ball dance in the wind I managed to pitch on the fourth.  I came close to holing the pesky little 35 footer but recorded a double.  Number two, a par five, was almost hit with a really good drive, 5 wood, and crushed 7 wood from 165, but alas another bogey.  Core temperature now at 95 and the shivers have started…. I am now officially toast but a really long way from the clubhouse. I am, however, confident of survival because my playing partner, Jeff, a firefighter, should be able to recognize the symptoms of body temperature inverse, exposure, shock and be able to treat me accordingly. There was an ensuing double bogey followed by 3 pars, and then the really good iron shot that found water on the 7th.  It was there I picked up and said “give me the nine” as I was going to try to get it together for a run at skins.  Core temperature is now at 94 and shaking at a near uncontrollable level, but I was able to tend the pin for the group.


Finally, got to the car, packed my stuff, was tempted to pour my still warm coffee on my body but jumped in and got out of Dodge - 18 minutes to home.  Upon arriving there I was still chanting my mantra of “howdumb…. howdumb….. howdumb…howdumb….”  Core temperature was now back to 96 but still wearing the golf gear except for the windbreaker.  Core temperature back to 98.6 right around the time we would have been finishing.


That is NOT happening again.  




PS:  My wife was wondering who the hell had hand lotion in my back seat.  I tried to explain it belonged to a golfing buddy (Paul).  She asked what her name was.


PPS:  Jeff and Jack, I apologize for ducking out “early”.  


DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME - Posted 7/13/16 - J Bruss

At a Brown Deer event on July 12 Bob Dean faced a difficult shot on the 16th hole.  His approach shot had come to rest just inches from the base of a large tree to the left of the green.  He had no room for a backswing, and a normal person might have thought it time to declare an unplayable lie and take a penalty drop.  But not Bob.  He contemplated that he could turn around with his back to the green, chop down on the ball with his chipper, and knock it backwards between his legs toward the flag. 

As you can see from the reenactment picture below, the execution of this shot has several potential significant consequences, the least if which is a 2 stroke penalty if the ball would strike Bob on the leg as it passed through.  Worse, if the trajectory of the ball were to be a bit higher than desired, the 2 stroke penalty would be coupled with a punishment of a more painful nature, as would also be the case if Bob’s follow through with the chipper were a little too aggressive.

Nevertheless, Bob, impervious to the dangers, proceeded to strike the ball perfectly, rolling it back to the green, just 10 feet above the hole.  To top off his achievement, he made the putt for par, giving him a story he will surely recount many times over the years.




--submitted 7/11/15 by George Carian


In a newsletter article that appeared almost exactly a year ago on 7/12/14 (The PGA Tour's "Wisconsin Era"), I wrote that Mark Wilson was likely to lose his Tour card at the end of the 2014 season.  That would be news to anyone watching him compete full-time this year.  The John Deere is Mark's 21st event in the 2014-2015 wrap-around season that started last October and runs through August.  Mark is indeed fighting to retain his card this year, as he is #116 in the FedEx Cup standings and #115 on the money list.  He missed the cut at the Deere and will drop a few spots in these all-important Top 125 lists.  There are just five tournaments left (not counting the PGA Championship) for him to improve or at least maintain his position.


Obviously, my statement about 2014 was wrong.  It's true that Wilson's win in 2012 would normally carry a two-year Tour exemption.  However, Wilson won TWICE in 2011 and was already exempt through 2014 (two years for the first win and another year for the second).  Thus, his victory in 2012 actually added one more year and made him exempt through the 2015 season.  It's a bit surprising that no one in the BDS club pointed out my error.


In the same article, I remarked that Steve Stricker was #7 on the Career Money list.  David Toms recently pushed him down to #8, at least temporarily.  Toms missed the cut at the Deere this week, so Stricker can reclaim the #7 spot with a good weekend finish.  Toms is seven weeks older than Stricker and turned pro one year earlier (1989 versus 1990).  Incredibly, after all these years they have both earned over $40.8 million and are separated by just $30,771 on the Career Money list.  It seems inevitable that Toms will prevail in this battle.  He has gained almost $400,000 on Stricker this year, and Stricker seems determined to remain a part-time player.  Both players will be eligible to head to the Senior Tour in 2017.


Davis Love is safe for a while in the #6 spot with more than $43 million, while Sergio Garcia ($40.0 million) and Adam Scott ($38.4 million) are closing fast on Toms and Stricker.  Curiously, Garcia and Scott were both born in 1980.


In an even earlier article on 2/16/14 (Packard's Wisconsin Legacy), I wrote that Larry Packard designed several Milwaukee-area golf courses including Wanaki.  This was immediately questioned by Paul Bartelak, a Wanaki Men's Club member who was sure Billy Sixty, Jr. actually designed the course.  This single mistake started me on a peripatetic project that is still ongoing, an attempt to ACCURATELY catalog Larry Packard's Wisconsin design record.


My Wanaki blunder arose from the website, which seems like an authoritative golf architect source but is in fact riddled with errors.  In my subsequent research, I acquired a biography of Mr. Packard ("Double Doglegs and Other Hazards" - 2002) which has an index of his designs.  Inexplicably, this list also contains numerous mistakes.  Just last week I obtained an undated Packard Design course listing sheet that is similarly flawed.  Three source documents, none even close to correct.


The project began with an exhaustive but largely fruitless internet search, which is hardly a shock since the course designs in question were built between 1957 and 1977.  The next step was phone calls to the golf courses, a continuing process that has yielded interesting and sometimes unexpected results.  More recently, I've been physically visiting the courses, hoping to find old (but clear!) memories.  As any researcher can attest, answers often seem to raise even more questions.


My efforts have included correspondence with Roger Packard (Larry's son), who is also in the golf course design business.  He has promised access to Larry's records, though the logistics might be difficult since Roger and all the records are in China!  Extreme road trip??


Progress has been painfully slow but this project is finally nearing completion.  An authoritative list of Larry Packard's Wisconsin golf course designs should be ready for publication in the next month or two.        


In 2014 54% of members signing up for tournaments selected early tee times, 35% took middle, and 11% picked late.  In our typical field of 80 players, this works out to approximately 11 foursomes for early times, 7 for middle, and 2 for late.  Most courses have 8 minute tee gaps, and we usually start at 8:00 AM. 

Using those parameters we can estimate a range of tee times for early, middle, and late signups, and they are as follows:  Early groups will be 8:00 to 9:20, middle will be 9:28 to 10:16, and late will be 10:24 to 10:32. 

So there you have it, a rough rule of thumb for estimating what time you might expect to play if you sign up for early, middle, or late tee times. 

Now for the fine print - all the parameters used to calculate this rule of thumb are variable.  For more distant courses signups skew later, while a field of 80 is fairly typical, we may get anywhere between 60 and 100, tee gaps range from 7.5 to 10 minutes, and we don’t always start at 8:00. 

       Therefore, use the rough estimate with a grain of salt.  J Bruss 4-18-15

OUR LOST BALL OR OB BALL RULE - posted by J Bruss 4-18-15
At times there seems to be some confusion about our lost or out of bounds ball rule.  I don’t know why that is, as the rule is spelled out clearly in the “Club Details” section of the website.  So, if you are unsure about it, please read it.  The main points to know about the rule are these:
  1. It’s optional.  You can always play strictly by the USGA rules for lost or out of bounds balls if you wish.

  2. If you hit a provisional ball, and if you don’t find the original or it is ob, then you must play the provisional.  You cannot invoke our special rule if you’ve already played a provisional.

  3.  If you decide to invoke our special rule, then drop a ball near the location of the lost or ob ball, and take a 2 stoke, not 1 stroke penalty.  Basically this means instead of taking the dreaded USGA “stroke and distance” penalty, you will take the dreaded BDS “stroke and stroke” penalty.

  4. The only purpose of this special rule is to speed up play by allowing a player to avoid the time consuming process of going back to the original spot and re-hitting from there.  Again it is optional.  If you want to go back and re-hit under the USGA rules, you can.

Miscellaneous Club Stats - posted by J Bruss 3-9-15

On a cold, cold day recently I wasted some time compiling a few club statistics.  Here they are in no particular order:

Our average account balance is $87.  Minimum is -$8, max is $342

123 of our 128 members are in the hole in one club, meaning just 5 are not.

Our average age is 70.6.  We have 10 members in the 50s​, 51 in the 60s, 53 in the 70s, and 14 in the 80s.  Our youngest is new member Steve Jaeger at 51.1, our oldest is Hank Kiernan at 87.8.

Speaking of new members, our 3 newest members, Jaeger, Henry Fink, and Nader Pakroo, have a total combined handicap index of 17.6.  The average index of all 9 of our new members is 12.4.  The average of all club members is 19.0.  

Index by age - Our players in the 50s have a 13.0 average index, those in the 60s average 16.4, the 70s 20.0, and our octogenarians average 28.2.

Our club was formed by Roger Schimm in 2001.  We have 19 charter members remaining.  Their average age is 78.6.

Last year 59 members won more money than they paid in entry fees, with an average net winnings of $81.  High was $277.  57 Members lost money, with an average net of minus $48, and a low of minus $147.  11 members did not play last year.


Useless but Somewhat Interesting Information
After I put 4 Jims in a foursome recently, George Carian went through the membership list and counted names in the club.  Here are his results: 

12, Bob

11, Jim

9, Mike

7, Tom

6, Bill & John

4, Roger & Russ

3, 5 names

2, 13 names

1, 27 names


George also noted that there are 2 Jacks, but just 1 George.  And the point of all this?  None I can think of. - J Bruss 7-19-14


FAREWELL TO IRONWOOD - posted 3/8/14


 As we prepare for the 2014 BDS season, it's hard to miss one change.  The schedule shows Petrifying Springs in the July slot where Ironwood had been for a number of years.  In fact, Ironwood is one of only six courses we've played every year since 2006 (the others are Brown Deer, Broadlands, Hartford, Washington County, and Whispering Springs).


Ironwood certainly has its imperfections, and several club members made an regular habit of boycotting the event.  To be sure, the 2nd and 16th greens are horrible, and the design of the 7th and 8th holes is quite peculiar (to use a kind word).  However, Ironwood was always one of the best attended events of the year.  So most of us seemed to be willing to put up with its flaws.  The tournament committee struggled with the decision to drop Ironwood, but the members kept ranking the course near the bottom every year.  It was simply time to move on.


It's interesting that all three courses dropped from our schedule this year (Abbey Springs and Lawsonia being the other two) sported some ridiculous pin positions in our 2013 events.  While high gasoline prices have made our members reluctant to travel long distances to courses like Lawsonia, it's crystal clear that we will not tolerate unfair greens.  Nor should we.


Looking back at the 2006 schedule, Ironwood is hardly the only course we no longer play.  Here's the complete list.

 Brighton Dale





Johnson Park

Mequon CC

Olde Highlander

Rolling Meadows

Shepherd's Crook

 Of all these courses, Johnson Park would definitely be on our schedule but it's always been booked solid on Tuesday.  In 2006, we played there on July 5th, since July 4th fell on a Tuesday.  Since we now accept an occasional Wednesday date on our schedule, the tournament committee will attempt to work something out for next year.


A review of 2006 wouldn't be complete without mentioning the BDS club welcomed a dozen new members that year.  It was a notable group despite the usual dropouts.  However, George Seul moved to St. George, Utah a year ago and now Ron Gunderson has moved to Phoenix.  That leaves just Bob Hudy and me.  It's not just the golf courses that change over time. -- George Carian

Packard's Wisconsin Legacy - posted February 16th, 2014]


Golf course designer E. Lawrence (Larry) Packard died January 28th at his home in Palm Harbor, Florida (where we all wish we were right now!).  Though he lived to be 101 years old, his memory in Wisconsin will survive much longer than that.  He designed more than 250 courses across the world in his prolific career, but most of them are in the Midwest.


There are over 500 golf courses in Wisconsin, and Packard is credited as the architect of 19 of them.  However, his impact on the BDS club is much more significant.  Of the 22 courses we will play in 2014, Packard designed four of them (Muskego Lakes, Naga-Waukee, Oakwood, and Wanaki).  He also designed the "newer" back nine at Watertown CC in 1959.


Other notable Packard courses in Wisconsin include Brown County, Mascoutin (the original Red/White nines), and Peninsula State Park. Large shallow bunkers are his trademark, reaching a climax in 1975 with the huge sand complexes at Chaska in Appleton.  You think "Packard" as soon as you start a round at Western Lakes (originally Tumblebrook CC) or Bristol Oaks, which are his other designs in the southeastern part of the state.


As a 13-year old I played his first (1957) Wisconsin design, Skyline Golf Club in Black River Falls.  At the time, it was just a 9-hole track but what a joy!  Everything right in front of you, no tricks, just hit good shots or learn to deal with sand traps.


Ask Wausau native Joe Jurkowski about Wausau CC, where Packard built an additional nine in 1960 and completely redesigned the original nine in 1965.  Here's an aerial photo of the course today.


Even from a distance, the bunkers command your attention!  Holes 2-4 were changed in 1970 and a course renovation in 1998 added a few bunkers, but basically it's still his design.


Packard's other specialty is the double dogleg par-5.  It's hard to top #14 at Naga-Waukee, though there are many other memorable examples (such as #2 at Nag and #2 and #15 at Western Lakes).  He also is known for the 4-5-4-3-4-5-4-3-4 par configuration, which is employed on both nines at Oakwood and Western Lakes.


So the next time you step onto one of Larry Packard's creations, consider his profound influence on the game our club plays.


--George Carian